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Why T.O. is Overrated!

Discussion in 'Chargers Fan Forum' started by RM24, Apr 8, 2008.

  1. RM24

    RM24 BoltTalker

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    Man, Palantonio nails it on this description of T.O. imo.

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    Selfishness, drops, playoff disappearing acts make T.O. overrated

    Some recent "best of" lists have been putting Terrell Owens in the same sentence as Jerry Rice. What are these people thinking?

    Rice, a member of the NFL 75th Anniversary Team, has won three Super Bowl titles and been named a Super Bowl MVP.

    The one time in Owens' 12-year career his team reached a Super Bowl, it got there without him. That tells you everything you need to know about T.O.

    Since entering the NFL in 1996 with San Francisco, Owens has piled up some remarkable numbers. His 129 career receiving touchdowns trail only Rice and Cris Carter. He's ninth all time in catches (882) and 10th in yards (13,070).

    And, along the way, he has destroyed two football teams.

    By 2003, the 49ers had enough of his act. After joining the Eagles in 2004, it took him only a year and a half to estrange himself from the team.

    With T.O., it's not about winning, it's about T.O. And that's only occasionally conducive to winning. Whether he's questioning Jeff Garcia's sexuality, blasting Donovan McNabb's Super Bowl performance or doing sit-ups for TV cameras on his front lawn, Owens generally finds himself making headlines for all the wrong reasons.

    Early in his career, Owens was humble, soft-spoken and respectful to his teammates and coaches -- and deferential to Rice. But as he became more and more dangerous on the field, Owens became more and more unpredictable off it.

    In 2000 and 2001, he posted consecutive 1,400-yard seasons, something only Rice and Marvin Harrison have achieved. He looked every bit like a budding Hall of Famer. But he changed. And most of what he accomplished on the field began to be overshadowed by his increasingly erratic behavior off it.

    "He started out as 90 percent Terrell and 10 percent T.O.," a former coach said. "A few years later, he was 90 percent T.O. and 10 percent Terrell."

    Owens began criticizing his coaches, ripping his teammates and shredding team chemistry, which effectively neutralized his on-field pyrotechnics.

    That's why Owens is one of the most overrated wide receivers in NFL history.

    No matter how many passes he catches, no matter how many touchdowns he scores, no matter how many Pro Bowls he's selected to, he always ends up hurting his team more than he helps it.

    "He's like a wild bronco," former NFL quarterback Boomer Esiason said. "Every cowboy thinks he can control him, but there are some broncos that nobody can saddle."

    And by the way, during his two years in Dallas, he has dropped 27 passes, according to Stats, LLC. That's more than anybody else in the league (Cleveland's Braylon Edwards is second with 20). And, sometimes, all you have to do is cover Owens to render him ineffective. Take Eagles cornerback Lito Sheppard. When the Cowboys played the Eagles last season without Sheppard on Nov. 4 in Philly, Owens caught 10 balls for 174 yards with one touchdown. On Dec. 16 in Dallas, Sheppard shut down Owens, who caught only two passes for 37 yards.

    Owens began his career playing alongside Rice, who didn't have to brag to convince people he was the greatest receiver of all time. The 49ers won playoff games with Rice and T.O. in 1996, 1997 and 1998, advancing to the NFC Championship Game in 1997.

    But without Rice, Owens has hardly won a thing. During the past seven seasons, Owens has been in uniform for just one postseason victory. His lifetime playoff record is 4-7 -- and of those four wins, three came in the wild-card round. And in four of his past six postseason games -- the biggest games of his career -- this alleged superstar had 49 or fewer receiving yards.

    His total postseason record without Rice is 1-5. Since leaving San Francisco, Owens has not won a playoff game.

    The 2004 Eagles were forced to play their first two postseason games without an injured Owens and won both easily. With Owens back, they lost 24-21 to the Patriots in Super Bowl XXXIX. Owens had a big game (9 catches for 122 yards), but instead of showing disappointment about the loss, he celebrated his performance in his postgame news conference.

    "Nobody in the world gave me a chance," he crowed after the game. "God is good. God is great."

    Why so happy after a loss? Because 9-for-122 matters far more to T.O. than a 24-21 loss in the Super Bowl.

    Maybe that's why during the past nine years, Owens' teams have won more postseason games without him than with him.

    Since joining the Cowboys, Owens is 0-2 in the postseason, with just six catches for 75 yards in two playoff games. In his past four playoff games, he has only one touchdown catch, which came last season in a loss at home to the Giants. Owens, who will be 35 in December and is going into the last year of his contract with the Cowboys, makes for a big show in Big D -- until the big games come around.

    "When it comes to this game, I'm the best in the field," Owens sang in a 2006 rap single.

    If being the best means ignoring your coaches, insulting your teammates, failing to produce in the playoffs and dropping more passes than anybody else in the league, he's absolutely right.
     
  2. BrOnCoS/32/33

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    T.O is hands down the best WR in the NFL
     
  3. RM24

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  4. BrOnCoS/32/33

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  5. turbo_turtle

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    I disagree with you on this one.

    I think it is either Randy Moss or Chad Johnson.

    TO is great but in my opinion is just a step lower than Moss and or Johnson.
     
  6. chargerlipz

    chargerlipz Leading the league in nose hairs.

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    Yeah, and the Broncos are good.... NOT!!!

    Hahaha.... Broncos suck!
     
  7. RM24

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    Broncos, did you READ the article? If you read it, you'll see why Palantonio says he COULD be the best, but his attitude and off the field antics offset his greatness as a WR. Read the article first and it will make sense. I don't want that baffoon anywhere near our team!
     
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    nickelbolt Fuggedaboutit

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    :icon_rofl::icon_rofl: He'd look great in a Donk uniform. :yes:
     
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  9. Boltdiehard

    Boltdiehard Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to the party and we've been playing kick the donkey for a couple weeks now although the mods banned one Donk fan. :(

    :abq2::abq1:
     
  10. BrOnCoS/32/33

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    All this Attitude Mumbo Jumbo means nothing.He is still the best WR in the game you know i know they all know it.

    Come on turtle T.O is way stronger than both of them he's like a created player in Madden.. I think of T.O as really Big WR/FB with speed and Power.He can catch the ball threw the middle catch deep balls pretty much anything you want him to do.Hes the best...
     
  11. BrOnCoS/32/33

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    Trolling at its best :tup:
     
  12. nickelbolt

    nickelbolt Fuggedaboutit

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    I guess when you're stuck with a guy like Brandon Marshall as your #1 WR, you have to convince yourself that attitude is just "Mumbo Jumbo".

    Perhaps you can convince Shanny to bring Chris Henry and all his "mumbo jumbo" onboard. He could quickly become another one of Cutlet's "least favorite people". Truly a winning combination.
     
  13. BrOnCoS/32/33

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    Henry isn't "Mumbo Jumbo" he is a bad seed and a ********, drunk*******.Far from "mumbo jumbo"
     
  14. nickelbolt

    nickelbolt Fuggedaboutit

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    And T.O.mo' is a cancer who can't clutch up when it matters most to his team. Not really the sign of the best WR in the game.

    I'll take a healthy Steve Smith (Panthers) over a healthy anyone in the game right now. By a WIDE MARGIN. If Steve Smith plays for the Patriots last year, they win it all. No question.
     
  15. BrOnCoS/32/33

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    :icon_rofl: Yea sure
     
  16. Buck Melanoma

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    Henry could be just Shanarat's type. I mean, he took a chance with Clarrett, so why not??? :icon_shrug:

    Denver Nags. :lol:
     
  17. chargerlipz

    chargerlipz Leading the league in nose hairs.

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    I'd take any one of these guys before I'd take TO:
    Reggie Wayne
    Chad Johnson
    Larry Fitzgerald
    Braylon Edwards

    Just to name a few and not in any particular order.
    Hell, I'd take Randy Moss with his baggage before I took TO.
    :abq1:
     
  18. BrOnCoS/32/33

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    WOW you'll take Fitzgerald over T.O :no:
     
  19. RM24

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    YES, I would. Any day, at any time. You obviously don't buy into the A.J. Smith "bad guys can poison a team" philosophy I guess judging by the comments you've made. Not trying to troll, just keeping it real.

    BTW, I would take Marvin Harrison in his prime over T.O. anytime. There is no "team" in T.O. (Terrible Odor)

    T.O. is a great receiver when he's focused and playing to win for the TEAM. Unfortunately, he's always playing for himself and his press clippings. He can put that damn stale "popcorn" of his away too!
     
  20. sickswonnyne

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    I'm down with this. Steve Smith is quicker, more aggressive, and more determined than any corner he goes up against. Plus, he never had a decent WR or TE opposite him to take the pressure or double team off him. A young Muhsin Muhammed was the best he's had. He literally beats up corners, much like Hines Ward or T.O. does, but is quicker and faster than either of them, or Chad Johnson. Randy Moss maybe faster and 7'' taller, but Smith is TONS more aggressive than him. Waaay more heart than those guys too. I know Steve Smith, Randy Moss, Chad Johnson, and T.O. all are emotional players, but Stevie channels all that fire to benefit the team, unlike the other three. Plus, all the WRs mentioned have been shut down before: T.O. by Lito Sheppard, Randy Moss by Quentin Jammer (or Cromartie?), Leigh Bodden frustrates Ocho Cinco the most I think. But if someone stops Sith on offense, at least he kills them returning kicks.

    The funny thing is, if Antonio Gates was strictly a WR, he'd be in the discussion on the best WR. He doesn't have their moves, but he catches better than almost anyone. Glad we have him.
     
  21. BrOnCoS/32/33

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    Is this the twilight zone people in this Forum really would take Steve Smith and Fitzgerald over T.O.If you where a sports analyst I'll change the channel.Thats a shame that both of you guys think like that.:unsure: Good Bless...
     
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    In this Twilight Zone I would definitely take either Steve Smith and or Larry Fitzgerald over T.O. any day.

    I would even take Dante Stallworth over T.O.

    Oh hell yeah I would take Chad Johnson and or Randy Moss way over T.O.

    So I like this Twilight Zone. If that is where we are in.
     
  23. BrOnCoS/32/33

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    Ok bye I'm out this is my last post in this website have a nice life guys.
     
  24. sickswonnyne

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    If it was Terrell Owens, the great wideout who played with Jerry Rice in SF, then I would take him over Fitzgerald. T.O., the team-killing alter-ego, has the A+ skills, but a remedial head. The fool is straight-up dumb. He has heart, I give him that, but he has issues and a large mouth. He's not right in the head, and even if he's not dog-fighting, weed tokin', or gang-banging, he ruins teams. And really, as a fan of a team, it would be the same thing. His actions, even if not illegal, hurt the team. Teammates (from what I understand) don't like playing with him and have to tolerate him 'cause of his skill. So yeah, I'd take Steve Smith or Fitzgerald over him. Some Twilight Zone.

    Y do u like him so much? I used to like the Niners, Rice was my favorite player, so I tried to root for him. He has skill, but poisons the team you root for. The Broncos can take him, but after your boy Brandon Marshall helped get Darrent Williams killed by being a dumb ***, I doubt they'd wanna get near that punk. Cutler can barely tolerate Marshall now, T.O. would clash with the "franchise" QB.

    Plus he drops too many passes, is 35, and isn't and never was really fast. There's better options man.
     
  25. sickswonnyne

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    Well ya Donte might be too extreme. He sux too.
     
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    All I have to say to that is....
    [​IMG]

    Don't let the door hit you....(actually I wouldn't mind having the door hit Donky boy.....)
     
  27. BrOnCoS/32/33

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    Yea yea..You miss me and i was only gone 15 mins
     
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    nickelbolt Fuggedaboutit

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    Be gone for good and I promise no one will miss you.
     
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    I'll miss him. :deadhorse:
     
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    :wave: :hilarious:
     

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